Thailand quietly became the center of gourmet and spas. In recent years Bangkok is rising as the capital of the World's kitchen. Wanna join me to explore the Kingdom? Sawasdee krub, welcome to Thailand Club, where we share Thai culture and eat in style. The writer can be reached at Instagram (thaisclub) Copyright © 2006-2019 MDS. All rights reserved.
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Tuesday, April 08, 2008
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Shang Palace has super food, from dim sum to dinner, from Peking Duck, Shark Fin to just the rice and dessert. our #1 Chinese food in BKK.
Hello, I also joined some of the meals posted here. Yes, AOI was unexpectedly disappointing. After the meal, I should have been aware of that because there are not too many customers. So for Japanese food, if the customers' flow is low, the freshness and food quality are relatively a problem. One of the fish egg appertizer was rotten. The set is not in a very small portion at B800 - considering unreasonably priced!
I tried the Khao Che of Tea Room (by Grand Hyatt). This year they made a very good one. The Jasmine chilled water is with a charboiled aroma - impressive. Then their high tea set is unbeatable - B199 net and it is like a full meal course set.
Then for Thon Krueng, it is generally nice. I like their grilled chicken. Though someone may find it too dry, I prefer the taste to the texture of the chicken. Their shrimp cake and fish cake are also very nice. It will become my regular visit for my BKK trip.
Jonathan
I agreed with all comments from Jonathan(in the sea). The Khao Chae at Grand Hyatt's Tea Room is very impressive. The Thai Restaurant at Thong Lo was so good. In fact, everything at Thong Lo is good including I Berry and the Ramen upstairs.
pizza flambe! so fire on the pizza? it must be interesting
Yes, Stella and all. I really like the area from Nana to Thonglo - lots of nice food, namely:
-soi 8, Khao Mun Gai (Chicken Rice) street stall open from morning to 4-5pm
-soi 13, Xuan Mai - Vietnamese home style cooking
-Landmark Hotel Cafe between soi 4 and 6 Sukhumvit
-soi 15 Flava at Dream Hotel
-Arirang Korean Restaurant at Sukhumvit Plaza, soi 12
-French Crepe & Co at soi 12
-soi 19, Le Beaulieu at Sofitel Residence
-soi 31 the Belgium Chocolate shop
-soi 33, Basilico
-of course, Emporium food court - Khao Kum Moo (pork knuckle rice) and SomTum (Papaya Salad)
-soi 49, Summer/Springs
-Thonglo - many......
Would like to try those mentioned by Jonathan in the SEA. Especially the French crepe at Soi 12.
When I was in Paris, my local friend brought me to a nice crepe shop. I wouldn't expect this shop can have very nice crepes. It's easy to find - just go in the soi 12 on Sukhumvit. Walk about 5 minutes, passing the ex-MOS place - now a SPA place. Then you will see it.
All of the above looks good. And Mr.sea's suggestions look very tempting. Soi 12 has both Korean food and crepe which both Stella and Chris like a lot.
jonathan, remembered the crepe flambee without the flame? anyway, its crepes were innovative and batter was delicious, so maybe a second chance for crepe and co., but after i sampled other 200 new and worthy-to-try restaurants first, LoL
Krup Pomn! If someone likes alcohol, that one with flame is a nice one, maybe... However, their crepe is pretty good after all.
I tried AOI Japanese Restaurant 2 years ago. My girl friend's Thai friend brought us there. The food was very good(as compared to those in US). But the one in this picture looks different.
That's why we kept saying we need to re-visit some restaurants which disappointed us or surprised us if we keep having some good or bad comments from the others. It's sometimes quite risky but would be a pleasant surprise. Chinese saying - "good" can be one meal and "bad" can be also one meal. That's it. Take it up and put it down - same for everything we do, not just eating.
Oh I saw my friend in this blog.
AOI is a bit backward after year by year esp. at such uneasy price we expect quality
Try Torajiro (make sure you go to main branch in the Japanese Village, Thonglo Soi 13, the branch in Central World is very so-so), Suikin (Ploenchit intersection), or Kisso at Westin Grande Sukhumvit Hotel (a bit pricey but it worth your deep pocket).
Everyone is welcomed to ask for recommendation about food in Bangkok (to my email address, not here).
Can you post your email address here Mr. Club?
Can I book your tour next time I come?
hi anonymous,
my email address is at the end of each blog, as,
(the writer can be reached at thaisclub@yahoo.com)
normally i operate V.VIP tour by referral only; but, it is a good idea to operate a gourmet tour for my readers, it may be in December then
Hi Anonymous,
You have to book this guy's gourmet tour. I went to BKK 4 times and I found it was very very good. Every time I like it more.
Before that, we did not expect Thailand has food as good as LA, and later we found out it is not as good as LA, it is in fact a lot better and cheaper.
me too, I am regular to Bangkok for the last 20 years, before I met Mr. Tea (thaisclub), every time I almost ate at same restaurants, the Mama House in Siam Square, Fuji Restaurant, Baan Khanitha Thai Restaurant, Thang Long, ... I keep repeating them due to lack of knowledge. Oh, don't tell me to rely on Wu's guide book, they are poison. From Wu's book, I tried the Dragon Seafood, which turned out to be a chopping-tourist place, expensive but terrible in taste (wonder if he got commission like the East Magazine accused), then C'est Bon, a French restaurant owned by HK people with a Vietnamese decoration, funny in first sight, the food even worse, HK-taste French food, no wonder in the restaurant I saw no western people but only Chinese 'singing' loud in Cantonese, and the highlight was the very expensive shark's fin soup in President Arcade (now also in Siam Paragon), it turned out to be a pot of microwave taste shark's fin and broth with no aromatic but only oyster sauce taste.
Thanks to Mr. Tea now I boarder my gastronomy vision in Thailand. I have been brought to places I never thought Thailand have them, and that good. So from used-to-be fun and naughty trip now I treat Bangkok a true gourmet destination.
Actually Tea has run his gourmet tour for over 8 years, don't understand why he put them on the blog just a year ago. Too busy Mr. Tea?
Interesting there are more and more good Japanese restaurant in BKK and I guess Korean are picking up too as there is such a growing no. of these people living in Bangkok. Yes, Kiso at Westin is pretty good and every time we came across something unexpectedly good, what a pleasant surprise. In terms of price and quality Sulkin (on Phloenchit) is a good choice, especially in lunch time.
right in the sea, lots of native Jap restaurants on the Thonglo belt and Thaniya Plaza worth your sampling
I think Bangkok offers the best Japanese cuisine outside of Japan, no where in any corner of the world (except Japan) do better
Actually I found out one interesting thing. Most Japanese restaurants outside of Japan still keep up to certain standard. At least I tried some good Japanese restaurants in Hong Kong, Taipei, KL, Singapore and Jarkarta, except those in Cannes - it can be the worst actually and expensive. There are also some good restaurants in Paris, as far as in comparison with those I have tried in Japan.
Cannes for Jap food? wasting quota! In Cannes and Nice i would concentrate on southern French cuisine, bouillabaisse and fresh oysters :)
Well, not one rule takes it all. There are some nice Italian restaurants in Cannes and Nice as it is very close to the border of North Italy. Also, some of you may think it's a bit crazy. The Hagen Daz in Cannes is pretty good too - I really need to tell you the Chocolate ice cream made in France is better than those made in Japan or USA, and even better than the Belgium Chocolate. What's more, haha - Subway! Yes, that American fast food submarine sandwich shop. The branch in Cannes does have some nice bread (probably the French know how to make nice bread) and of course the ingredients such as onion, bell pepper are freshly from Southern France, it made the sandwich nice too. Actually, you may not like the real local French food too much as it's a bit salty and strong in flavour.
oops i do believe Cannes and Nice do good Italian food as it neighboring the southern Italy, i also believe there make good ice cream and other western food as French are strict in detials and freshness of ingredients, but just not Chinese and Japanese fare that use of different cooking technique
French bread? already proven the best in the world
They all look so good. But
all I tried was only Shang Palace and Iberry here.
I have to exit now because Stella wants to close this when she is not here(in bed).
Good night David.
Dick/Ronald
I think as far as I have travelled, I like Chinese food (Taiwanese, HK, Guang Zhou, Beijing and Sichung - yes I like Sichung though it is hot and oily - they are good at using herb), Thai, Japanese, Korean and French. I often take a lot of French bread in Cannes, but my business associates (HK) often wanted Chinese food. Paid for HK$1,000 for 3 dishes - pork in tomato sauce (sweet and sour pork on the menu), junk fried of broccoli with beef and fried noodle (wow - the worst, any fired noodles from a street stall in HK can beat it). However, still a lot of westerners went there for the soy sauce and tomato sauce taste. Yes, I can say if you want to smell the soy sauce and tomato sauce, you can go there and take a smell.
I can tell both Mr. Thailand and Mr. Sea are gourmets. You guys shall grouped together and mingle so you can compare notes.
Thank you Mr. Anonymous. In fact, I am still learning - way to go. Tonight I watched my idol chef Mr. Chow Chung (the ex-Chef for the Chinese restaurant of Hyatt Regency HK). He showed a classic restaurant in Guang Zhou about the traditional way of sweet and sour pork. I am so glad that what my mom told me is true - yes "haw flake" for the sauce! What's more, the chef also told that any sweet and sour pork with sauce left on the plate is disqualified! Chef Chow Chung said nowadays not many restaurants can make the sweet and sour pork in the right way. I am glad I wrote my recipe on my blog earlier, like my diary, in case one day my nieces and nephew may want to know what their grand mom once told.
Chow Chung, that funny chef? he was real good that brought the Chinese (Hyatt Regency Kowloon) to the high, he is the first one started the innovative cooking since the 80's, like the shark's fin in whole ripe papaya, this dish look simple but actually require lots of technique, of course i don't know how to do it, i have big mouth but my hands r stupid hehe
I ate at "AOI" in 2006 and it was so good. Heard they are expanding now.
Yes, I was impressed with the new way of certain cooking technique taught by him. He taught about how to do well the stir fried sticky rice. It's so so difficult to do it well. Sticky rice is difficult to cook evenly. Some may be too hard and some may be jammed together. He used a very simple (but intrigue) method - "take the sticky rice for a quick soaking in hot boiling water for half minute" (飛水). Then this way, the sticky rice will have the moisture evenly when stir fired. Also, it will shorten the stir frying time. Then about Shark's Fin in Papaya, it's good because the enyzme of Papaya will help digest the shark's fin collagen.
Chow Chung's tv show is on TVB right? If yes, then friends from southern California may hv the chance to watch his show, through cable Jade!
Yes, it's on Jade but somehow and sometimes with Choy Lan whom I don't like. He may have a good knowledge about the culinary history but I don't think he has a good sense of tasting food. Chef Chow Chung is also a fun guy having a very good sense of humour.
I don't like Choy Lan at all(but I don't know why). I think he is always acts like a authority/representative.
Yes Chow Chung is so funny and I like him(although he is not good looking). He is the judge of a TVB program called "pretty girl kitchen" here in LA.
From Ronald
(assigned by Stella to write this comment as she forgot to write this earlier.)
Well, good knowledge and having a sharp taste buds are two different things. So Choy Lan can be a cuisine teacher but can not be a food critic. I like Leung Man To, although he is very 'chuen', but his words make sense and he has good taste. I like one of his quote 'having money to pay for expensive meal doesn't make you a gourmet, but able to find good food from low cost eateries making you a gourmet'. True!
Fish Burger,
You are right. I agree with Leung Man To and your comment regarding the meaning of good food and gourmet not necessary needs to be correlated with money.
envy u guys can watch Chow Chung and Leung Man To tv programs, in Thailand they are in no avail
I watch McDang (ML Sirichalerm Svasti) show, he is a famous tv host on cooking program and food critic in Thailand.
Hi Blogger,
I can only see Chow Chung and Leung Man Tao tasting food and grading them at different programs from Jade Channel(like "Pretty Girl Kitchen" and others) But I did not see any program where these two teach cooking. I will tell you if I do.
P.S. Oh, I told you earlier I will not comment on your old stuffs but I cannot help it.
Leung Man To - a lovely man as called To To by all the girls. There was a time he introduced the "hot pot rice" in the winter season. I absolutely agreed with him on those hot pot rice on charboiled fire. Yes, the traditional way of heating is the best! That's why I told most of my friends about the charboiled chicken rice in Yaowarat (China town of Bangkok). However, a few years ago when I re-visited that street stall again, the old lady wasn't there and her daughter took care of the shop. It's the same at all. I missed that rice pretty much though I don't like Chicken rice much. I noticed she throw the chicken skeleton (after boneless the meat) into the soup - what a good way of keeping the soup tasty!
Oh, I think we might be wrong. For eating culture, Choy Lan may not be up to standard. I just watched another episode of his eating program. Luckily he had Mr. Ngai Hon (倪康), Mr. Ngai corrected some of the historical things in the program. Then they went to Sai Kung for seafood. My goodness - nowadays anyone show is good at seafood should know that seafood at Sai Kung is no longer good, and it's cheating the customers by 2-3 times. Besides, most of the restaurants don't know how to do seafood. Last time the renowned Tung Kee and even Chuen Kee made some lousy steamed fish and scalops! How could the chefs turned off the heat with the lid covering the steamed dishes! Anyone good having basic knowledge should know 'never turn off the heat before the lid is uncovered'. I told the waiters about that because I truly knew what went wrong, but of course they denied it! Pathetic and since then I told myself i would stay away from those cheating places! Now I fall in love with Ap Lei Chau market, reminding me of my childhood, seeing all those interesting live seafood.
In-the-sea, so where to eat good seafood in HK now?
Mike,
I know where to eat good food and seafood in HK.
There is one place called
"Jonathan's Kitchen".
Actually the seafood in some restaurants are quite good - like Ho Choy, as those seafood in Sai Kung or Lau Fau Shan are all farm seafood - no more wild catch. So going to a seafood in downtown is already good because the seafood are the same. I think if I name it, Lamma Island can still be a choice, but it's still commercial to me. For Ap Lei Chau market and some other seafood market (probably Aberdeen), you can buy the seafood and bring them to upstairs for the hot food stalls to cook them. At least those people won't charge you like those dragular shops in Sai Kung. This way you can eat some wild catch fish and save your money. Or like my friend - they hire a boat to take a rough ride of 10 hours to the oil drill places in South China Sea and fish by yourself. They fish a 10kg Golden Pomfret! Normally 1kg is already big.
For my home, it's just so so but certainly I won't charge like Sai Kung - 5-6 times higher than the seafood price itself. Besides, for home cooking, we can choose the oil and soy sauce. For those Sai Kung restaurant - would they use fine oil - I really doubt?
thanks in-the-sea for the brief seafood shopping tour in HK, so girls/guys now we know were to hunt for seafood besides ur Prada in outlet
yes, oil and soy sauce quality is very very important, exp. when steam is involved, that's why i always think the steam fish in Bangkok r just average and not outstanding due to the soy sauce quality is too cheap, Ah Yat Forum Bangkok has superb steam fish, as the soy sauce was imported from HK, and Crystal Jade also do very good steam fish
besides HK soy sauce r good, i think Taiwan soy sauce r even better, i used to ask my Taiwanese customers to bring me soy sauce, they were so surprised! hahaha can't help as long as my tongue r fussy :)
Har... outlets in those South Horizon Factory Buildings? To me it's a waste of time to buy some unreasonably priced (though reduced) fashion. But if you don't care about how they look like and just for their big logo of those things, it's still better than buying from the retail shops. The soy sauce made in Taiwan tends to sweeter taste. Kim Lan is quite a good brand. Wow, bring a soy sauce to you - if it's broken in the luggage, then we can get an excuse to buy another suitcase and all the daily stuff. However, I seem to see some soy sauce imported from HK at the Siam Paragon supermarket or somewhere else. I will find out.
no no, not asking u to bring soy sauce, u should know i don't need them now; what i told is some customers from Taiwan used to bring me soy sauce
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